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Zach Bush meets Del Bigtree in Hawaii (wouldn't we all?) to discuss his views on the latest virus situation - and that's just the start.

Their first encounter we highlighted in December 2020 - in fact it's the only video that we have highlighted twice.

Zach does have an excellent way of expressing himself and explaining his understanding of how our bodies function and how we relate to the planetary ecosystems of life - I have never found anyone else express this compelling vision (and no, that's not over-hyping it), let alone do it so cogently:

"if you pile chronic inflammation and then pharmaceuticals on top of that then you create a perfect storm"

"we may or may not have played a hand in creating the virus - we 100% created the vulnerability"

"we are stepping ever nearer to this extinction cliff by this schism of belief that we are somehow separate from nature"

"without the connectivity of humans, we lack perspective"

"if your language is divisive, if your belief systems are divisive, then you are part of the problem"

Zach moves on to discuss very pertinent points about "global warming" - his diagnosis is both unexpected and fascinating, but is he right?

Whether or not he is right - this conversation is absolutely unmissable - if you watch nothing else, watch this to the very end (50 mins):


 Watch at the Highwire.